Posted by: dinerhotline | August 28, 2010

Notes from the Hotline, 8-28-2010

Diner Hotline meets Diner Hunter


Larry Cultrera and Spencer Stewart inside the Portside Diner
photo courtesy of Michael & Spencer Stewart

I have known Spencer Stewart for a half-dozen years. He contacted me back in 2004 to let me know how he was an avid Diner Buff (at the young age of 14) and that he was a regular reader of the old print version of Diner Hotline (SCA Journal).  I found this intriguing and actually wrote about him back then in another “Notes from the Hotline” (Spring 2005, SCA Journal).  I referred to Spencer as “the next generation of commercial archeologist” in that piece. 

We almost met a few years ago when he was on his way up north with his dad Michael for a family vacation I recall, but did not connect on that trip due to bad logistics. As a side note, about a year after I started the Diner Hotline Weblog, Spencer created his Diner Hunter blog……. (http://dinerman.wordpress.com/). We finally got the chance to meet this week when again Michael & Spencer were on their way north, this time to Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia for the beginning of Spencer’s sophomore year at that school (with a stop in Maine along the way).

Their timing was perfect driving up from Baltimore, as they were coming into my hometown of Saugus, Mass. at exactly the same time I was driving home from work! I brought them into the house to meet Denise and to show them some of the collection on display and then we went out for a bite to the Portside Diner in Danvers. It was great to finally meet these guys!


Michael & Spencer Stewart inside the Portside Diner
photo by Larry Cultrera


Larry & Spencer standing in the drizzle outside the Portside Diner
photo courtesy of Michael & Spencer Stewart


Larry sitting in a booth, waiting for his meal at the Portside Diner
photo courtesy of Michael & Spencer Stewart

Something’s starting to happen at the Bel Aire Diner


Bel Aire Diner, U.S. Rte. 1 in Peabody, Mass.
photo by Larry Cultrera

I posted not long ago about the reported eventual redevelopment of the Bel Aire Diner located on U.S. Route 1 in Peabody, Mass. As I drive by the site twice a day to and from work, I have been keeping a close eye on it. Well things started to happen this week as I noticed the utility wires that connected to the diner were removed and the parking lot behind and to the right of the diner had been excavated. The gas station next door was also being dismantled.


rear view showing back of Bel Aire Diner kitchen (w/door open)
also the partially dismantled gas station in back ground


Looking along the right side of the diner w/parking lot torn up


partially dismantled gas station, the office (to the right) will still be
used – at least temporarily.


looking back toward the diner thru the dismantled wall of the gas station

Even though I wrote in a previous post that the diner was going to be included in the newer, larger building to be built on this site, I have had conflicting reports that it may or may not actually be used and it is either going to be moved out or worse case scenario, destroyed. I looked inside the open back door to theon-site-built  kitchen and saw that it has been completely stripped of any and all equipment. The diner itself has a lot of things being stored inside from what I can tell. Also, there are architectural drawings and renderings on a wall in the gas station office that give conflicting info. The renderings show the diner as part of the new building and the newer drawings show something completely different. One thing is for sure, Red’s Sandwich Shop of Salem will be operating a restaurant in whatever building is used for food service on the site (whether it is the reused diner or something completely new).


Daryl Hall & John Oates’ Abandoned Luncheonette,
1973 Atlantic Records Album Cover 

Not long after I started the Diner Hotline Weblog, I mentioned that I would write about the “Diner in my Header” (the photo at the top of my blog), see…
http://dinerhotline.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/diner-in-my-header/.
I know a lot of “Diner People” were familiar with a similar image that dates back to 1973 and was the inspiration for my 1982 photo. So now I am finally going to keep my promise to my faithful readers and tell the story in its complete form, with the help of my friend Matt Simmons!

Back in 1991, I was asked by Randy Garbin of Roadside Magazine (now RoadsideOnline) to contribute a “Diner Hunting” story for the fourth issue of his fledgling publication (Roadside, Summer, 1991). At first I thought, which of the hundreds of diners I had documented up to that point in time would make a compelling enough tale for Randy’s faithful readers? Then it came to me in a New York minute (OK, a Pennsylvania minute) that it had to be the story of how I found the “ABANDONED LUNCHEONETTE” !!! The next part is basically what I wrote for Roadside, with a few new tweaks……


My recreation of the photo from the album cover, 2/26/1982

 For those of you readers not familiar with it, Abandoned Luncheonette is the title song of an LP record album by recording artists Daryl Hall & John Oates, released in 1973 on the Atlantic Records label. The album cover featured a photograph of an abandoned diner. This cover had always intrigued me whenever I came across it in music stores. I used to say to myself, “Wow…what a great idea for an album cover.” Every so often, I would even hear the song on the radio, but I never paid much attention to the lyrics.

It wasn’t until November 1980, the same weekend I had taken my first photograph of a diner in Harrisburg, PA, that I actually came closer to finding the Abandoned Luncheonette. I was driving through New York City and had the radio tuned to an FM station. Between tunes, the DJ mentioned how he liked diners, which definitely got my attention, and then he played the Abandoned Luncheonette song. For the first time, I really listened to the lyrics. I couldn’t believe it – what a great tune! The words spoke to me and stirred something within me. I had to have this record. Needless to say, I bought this album – the first of around 15 albums in my collection with images of diners featured on the covers.

A year later while I was again visiting Harrisburg, I was sitting in my friend Steve Repucci’s living room, looking at a map of Pennsylvania and trying to locate a small road in the Philadelphia area. You see, there is a clue to the Abandoned Luncheonette’s location on the inner sleeve that mentions “the man on Route 724.” I knew that Daryl Hall & John Oates both were raised in the Philly area and figured that the diner may be located near there. I couldn’t find Route 724 anywhere on the map. There were just too many small roads with~3 digit designations to see it. But wouldn’t you know, the next morning while driving home on Route 222 through Reading, PA at around 4:30 a.m., I came upon the junction of Route 724. I couldn’t believe it! I pulled over and checked out the map. The road went only a few miles to the west, but went 30 or so miles to the east, towards Philadelphia. I knew this had to be the right road and decided that on my next trip, I would go exploring.

On February 26, 1982, I returned to Pennsylvania with Steve’s brother Scott to help get Steve moved back to Boston. Since we had some time to kill on the trip down, we bypassed through Reading and headed down Route 724. We had traveled about 20 miles or so to the east into the outskirts of Pottstown (actually Kenilworth, PA) when there it was – the Abandoned Luncheonette – sitting about 25 feet off the side of the road. This was really exciting, almost like finding the Holy Grail. It was still recognizable and looked very similar to the album cover, albeit with nine years worth of over-grown foliage. Luckily, it was the middle of winter, and I was able to duplicate the album cover photo without the bushes and trees getting in the way.


Photo of me in front of the diner,  shot by Scott Repucci 2/26/1982


Scott Repucci inside the Abandoned Luncheonette, 2/26/1982


Left – front view of the Abandoned Luncheonette, 2/26/1982


Interior shot of the Abandoned Luncheonette, 2/26/1982


Right –  front view of the Abandoned Luncheonette, 2/26/1982


Left – side view of the Abandoned Luncheonette, 2/26/1982


Another interior shot of the Abandoned Luncheonette, 2/26/1982

I have since found out the diner was formerly the Rosedale Diner, operated for years at the corner of High Street and Rosedale Drive in Pottstown. The diner was probably moved sometime in the early 1970′s to Route 724, but was never put back into service. It was certainly in sad shape when I found it and on a subsequent visit April 3, 1983, it was completely unrecognizable having had all of its stainless steel exterior stripped away. In fact, The Man on Rte. 724 himself (Bill Faulk) asked us to leave the premises.


Front view of diner completely stripped, 4/3/1983

Although it’s a shame this diner met with an untimely death, I feel lucky that I was able to find it with the slimmest of clues and document it prior to it becoming almost completely unrecognizable. Now if I could only get the original Rosedale Diner linen postcard into my collection!


Rosedale Diner postcard from my collection

Well, since I wrote that story in 1991, I was able to obtain a copy of the Rosedale Diner postcard for the collection (thanks Art Goody!). Also, within the last 5 years or so, I have become acquainted with some key people who were able to impart some more facts and info on the Abandoned Luncheonette. One of the facts I had wrong in the earlier story was when I guessed the time period the diner got moved to its final resting place. Not sometime in the early 1970’s as I surmised, but actually in 1965.

One of the people that I have managed to make contact with was Susan Norman of the Pottstown, PA area. She was able to give me some first-hand info on the diner and its history. Susan is good friends with Cindy Faulk Baker. In fact they have known each other most of their lives. Cindy is the daughter of Bill Faulk who was the owner and operator of the Rosedale Diner. In my correspondence with Susan, she was able to fill me in on some of the facts about the diner and also put me in touch with Cindy. In fact, Susan sent a nice little “care” package to me with some photos as well as an old menu cover from the Rosedale Diner, which I greatly appreciated!


Rosedale Diner menu cover courtesy of Susan Norman

Ironically, not too long after I started corresponding with Susan, Brian Butko put me in touch with Matt Simmons, around the time I started this blog in 2007. Matt was himself trying to find info on The Abandoned Luncheonette. Matt is from the Detroit, MI area and is a big fan of  Daryl Hall & John Oates’ early music. He was trying to piece together info on his favorite album cover from H&O and Brian knew that had been a passion of mine for a while. So thus began a trading of info back and forth between Matt and myself.

In the mean time, it was brought to my attention by Susan Norman that Bill Faulk passed away on November 6, 2007, (I wrote about it in the blog) and within the same week a drinking glass with the Rosedale Diner logo silk screened on it went up for auction on ebay. What a coincidence! I immediately bid on it and was determined to get it for the collection. I watched over the auction for the last hour or so of bidding and managed to squeak by in the last 2 minutes for the winning bid!


front of Rosedale Diner drinking glass w/logo


Back of Rosedale Diner drinking glass

Since then, I have continued to post all sorts of “Diner related” posts as well as other roadside topics in the almost 3 intervening years. In the back of my mind, the story of the Abandoned Luncheonette/Rosedale Diner was always lurking. Also, Matt Simmons was making inroads in gaining more info and insights while making friends with Cindy Baker and her sister, Marla LaBelle as well as their friend Susan Norman.

Recently, when I did a post on Abandoned Diners, I renewed my promise to finally do something with the story of the Rosedale. Matt contacted me at this point and said he was making another trip to Pennsylvania and after the trip, would document everything he’d learned and send it to me. Well, the middle of July came and with it an email from Matt with the promised story. I read it over and got back to him to let him know that it was a fantastic piece! I told him he was getting co-authorship of this post. (In fact, his text makes up most of it)! So here is Matt’s part of the post……

It was a summer day in 1973, and Bill Faulk was musing to his 26 year-old daughter, Cindy, about a peculiar recent event. Two young men, or “hippie boys”, as Bill described them, had walked into his restaurant, Toggs, with an unusual request.

“He said they told him that they wanted to enter some contest,” Cindy recalls.

According to Bill, the hippie boys informed him that if they won this contest, they would get to record an album of their music. A photo of the dormant diner across the street, which Bill also owned, would be perfect for the cover.

“I told them they could take a picture of it, but not to go inside,” Bill would tell a newspaper reporter, ten years later. “They went inside, anyway.”

After Bill called the local police, the hippie boys, along with their college-aged female photographer, abruptly scurried from the diner.

Fifty-two summers earlier, long before hippie boys and girls came to prominence, Talmadge William Faulk’s introduction to the world came in Prattville, Alabama. The simplicity of southern farm life was shaken at the age of seven, when his beloved mother, Annie Pearl, passed away. Formal education was forsaken shortly thereafter, stalling short of the fourth grade. Following a laborious youth and adolescence, the twenty-one year old known as “Toggs” to some and “Bill” to most, enlisted in the army at Fort McClellan. While serving in World War II, he earned promotions to the level of Sergeant and often fulfilled cooking duties for his fellow soldiers.

While on furlough in Atlantic City in the autumn of 1944, Bill became acquainted with Nancy Scheeler—a lovely twenty year-old from Pottstown, PA. Their relationship quickly blossomed, driven by a flurry of love letters penned by Bill. Having recently discovered and read the letters, Cindy declares, “My Dad was very, should I say—suave.”

A few months after meeting in Atlantic City, Bill and Nancy were married on Christmas Day of 1944.


Operating location of the Rosedale Diner, photo courtesy of Matt Simmons

Following the Allies’ victory, the newlyweds settled in Nancy’s hometown. Situated forty miles northwest of the Liberty Bell, the borough served as residence for roughly 22,000 others. In August of 1946, Nancy gave birth to Cindy. When Bill’s daughter was three and a half, he took a symbolic step toward fulfilling a longtime dream. Registering as a business owner with the State of Pennsylvania, Bill secured the name “Rosedale Diner” for his new venture. He opened his restaurant at the corner of East High and Rosedale streets. High Street, a.k.a. Route 422 at the time, was the bustling main drag in Pottstown. In addition to the cross-street namesake, the surrounding collection of homes was known as the “Rosedale neighborhood”—the most prestigious in the borough. Manufactured by Fodero Dining Car Company, Bill’s diner sparkled with a stainless steel exterior and red trim. A kaleidoscope of pink and burgundy tiles lined the interior floor and walls, and the forty-three seat restaurant featured a significant luxury: air-conditioning. 


Fodero Dining Car Company builder’s tag courtesy of Pat Fodero

The Rosedale operated just a mile and a half down High Street from the Sunnybrook Ballroom, a popular dance hall in which jazz and big band musicians performed. Consequently, the likes of Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington sporadically inhabited the diner’s booths. But no famed swing-master of the time would ultimately wield as great of an impact on the diner’s fortunes as a young boy named Daryl. The youth from nearby Cedarville was often brought to the Rosedale by his parents, Walter and Betty Hohl. Betty was a local music teacher, whose son was among her pupils.


A proud Bill Faulk sitting at the counter at the Rosedale Diner
photo courtesy of Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman


Nancy & Bill Faulk sitting in a booth at the Rosedale Diner
photo courtesy of Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman


Bill with daughter Cindy inside the Rosedale Diner
photo courtesy of Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman


Great interior shot of the Rosedale Diner
photo courtesy of Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman

Open twenty-four hours, six days a week, operating the Rosedale required a complete family effort. Bill typically labored until at least 9:00 P.M., with Nancy joining him at 4:00 in the afternoon. Cindy spent many evenings of her youth at the diner, and at age twelve, she became part of the daily staff. She performed just about every task required at the Rosedale, until earning her high school diploma. During those six years of six-day work weeks, Cindy’s father never provided her with financial compensation for her efforts.

Of course, the Rosedale Diner did have paid staff, as well.

“Dad hired lots of pretty waitresses,” Cindy recalls.

Among them was Jean Harner, who Cindy believes was eighteen when she accepted a waitress position at the Rosedale. However, when asked if it’s possible, Cindy acknowledges that perhaps Jean actually was twenty when the diner was a baby. Jean would quickly become significant in Bill’s life, and remain so until the end of hers.


Aerial view of Rosedale Diner prior to obtaining an entryway vestibule
from Fodero Diners. (the diner came from the factory sans vestibule, I believe that Fodero designed it to have a vestibule but due to construction and set-up costs, Bill put-off having one initially. I suspect that after the diner was paid-off, Bill went back to Fodero and had one made) - LAC
photo courtesy of Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman


circa 1957 photo showing newly installed factory-built entryway vestibule
photo courtesy of Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman

From the Rosedale’s opening day, Bill merely leased the land on High Street. He declined opportunities to buy it more than once, balking at the asking price. In 1965, Nagle Motors, the company that held the parcel, found another party that didn’t flinch at the cost of procurement. A new franchise of a fledgling fast-food chain known as McDonald’s moved in. The Rosedale was relegated to being towed out.

As fate would have it, the dislodging of the diner was not the biggest Faulk family event of 1965. In July, three days after Bill’s forty-fourth birthday, he and Nancy welcomed their second daughter, Marla. One month shy of turning eighteen, Cindy was no longer an only child. The challenge of having a bigger family to support was compounded by the newfound uncertainty and upheaval in Bill’s professional life. The proliferation of McDonald’s had been no surprise to him. He had been telling a variety of people for years that fast food was the future of the restaurant business. With his diner now homeless, Bill decided the time to join the future was now.

He purchased land on each side of Route 724 on the southeastern outskirts of Pottstown.  Bill secured several rural acres on the north side, and enough space to open a new restaurant directly across the street on the south side. Bill claimed to have paid $6,000 to have the Rosedale towed from its bustling High Street locale and moved two miles to his new spread. He directed the diner be placed near the north edge of Route 724. And in that spot, the Rosedale sat. Empty, quiet, dark and dusty…  the Rosedale sat. Bill raised cattle on the surrounding acres, as the Rosedale sat. And sat.


Rte. 724 signs, photo courtesy Matt Simmons

Bill had his new fast food restaurant, Toggs, constructed directly across the street. Unlike the High Street location, Bill’s new eatery was isolated from the vibrancy of Pottstown life. It turned out that the most significant structure in its proximity was a private residence—Daryl Hohl’s grandmother’s house.

To enhance his pursuit of a music career by easing pronunciation, Daryl changed his surname to Hall. He met fellow southeast Pennsylvania native John Oates while they were each students at Temple University. Together, they signed with Atlantic records and released their first album in 1972. After “Whole Oates” faded with little radio play, meager sales and lukewarm reviews, the duo began writing songs for what would become the most critically acclaimed album they would ever release. One of the songs, composed by Daryl, was inspired by the diner that had transformed from a sparkling childhood memory to a dormant and downtrodden relic. So, at least one thing Daryl said on that summer day at Toggs in 1973 was true. Bill Faulk’s defunct diner would be perfect for his and John’s album cover.

On November 3rd, 1973, Daryl Hall and John Oates released their second album, entitled “Abandoned Luncheonette”. The front cover featured an exterior photo of the Rosedale, encompassed by the tall grass and shrubs of eight years of inactivity. The back cover featured a photo of the duo that was taken moments before the police arrived at the scene.

The inner album sleeve contained head shots of Hall and Oates against the stainless steel interior of a different diner, indicating that Bill’s call to the police had initially prevented the hippie boys from getting all the snapshots they wanted. 

Among the acknowledgements read: “Luncheonettes courtesy of The Man on Rt. 724 and Imperial Shell Homes, Inc. (better known as ‘The Diner Graveyard’)”. Bill was sent a Hall & Oates t-shirt and what was promised to be the first copy of the album off the presses. Daryl and John inscribed the back cover, right over the picture that had been taken against Bill’s wishes.

“’Mr. Man’, your cooperation was wonderful and we love you and your family. – Daryl Hall, John Oates”.


Signed back cover of Abandoned Luncheonette album
photo courtesy of Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman

Despite widespread critical acclaim, the LP would not be a commercial success for Hall and Oates for several years. “She’s Gone”, from Side A, initially fizzled as a single, only to hit number #1 on the R & B chart when covered by Tavares. The first song on side B was the title track. Its lyrics painted a somewhat pitiful picture of an antiquated couple, sitting in an empty diner, clinging to the distant days in which their youthful energy had brought the building to life. To anyone who ever knew Bill, it would be obvious that the lyrics were about him. But the song’s other fallen hero was not his wife.

“I have no doubt that the woman in the song is Jean,” Cindy asserts.

After all, by the day Daryl, John, and their photographer walked into Toggs, Bill and Jean had long been a couple. For quite some time, the marriage between Bill and Nancy had merely existed on paper. The husband and wife had moved on, mutually.

After receiving the autographed copy of “Abandoned Luncheonette”, life went on in typical fashion. According to Marla, Bill listened to the album once, and then never again removed it from its sleeve. But in 1976, Bill started to notice something surprising and disturbing. The locks on his diner’s doors had been broken, and items were vanishing from within. Random strangers were stopping by, even in broad daylight, and attempting to go inside the Rosedale. Not coincidentally, Hall and Oates had recently scored their first top ten hit with “Sara Smile”. Atlantic records quickly reissued “She’s Gone”, and it went top ten as well, drawing significant attention to the album from which it had come three years prior.

At first, the corresponding deterioration of the Rosedale was gradual. Then came the 1980’s. Hall and Oates began the decade with separate multi-platinum-selling albums in three successive years. The local hippie boys, who had dropped by Toggs with a peculiar request nearly a decade earlier, were now arguably the second most popular musical act in the world behind Michael Jackson. People came from all over the world, in search of the special spot on Route 724 at Peterman Road. The Rosedale was ravaged.

By January of ’83, township officials had informed Bill that his dilapidated diner was now an eyesore that had to be eradicated. Bill saw little choice but to plan its demolition.  News of the impending doom spread quickly, from papers in Pottstown, Reading and Philadelphia, to the city of brotherly love’s NBC affiliate. Terry Ruggles came to the site on Route 724 with microphone in hand and cameraman in tow. Bill told a story about one man who had chained the door of the Rosedale to the bumper of his car, in an effort to drag away a unique souvenir. The bumper lost the tug of war. Bill listened unsympathetically, as the man lamented his fate.


Bill Faulk, Terry Ruggles and unidentified cameraman in a TV interview
circa 1983 photo courtesy of Susan Norman


Terry Ruggles interviewing Bill on camera
1983 photo courtesy of Susan Norman


Bill Faulk, Terry Ruggles, Cindy Baker & Jean Harner inside Pizza World
1983 photo courtesy of Susan Norman

News of the Rosedale’s numbered days also reached Hall and Oates themselves. Daryl decided that he wanted to rescue the endangered relic, and he prompted Randy Hoffman, a member of his and John’s management team, to negotiate with Bill.

“I’d love to sell it,” Bill told Michael Sangiacomo of the Pottstown Mercury.  “They might as well buy it.”

But they never did. Why the transaction never took place is not entirely clear. Hoffman, through a spokesperson, insisted that he “honestly could not remember”. Nor could John Oates, nor could Betty Hohl. Daryl Hall could not be reached for comment. Rumor has it that Bill demanded a ridiculous amount of money, and Daryl emphatically declined.

“I honestly couldn’t have seen Bill ever being willing to sell the diner, not unless someone offered him a million dollars,” mused longtime Faulk family friend, Sue Norman. Although Bill expressed in print that he would like to sell the Rosedale, Cindy highly doubts that her father meant it.

“My Dad never wanted to sell anything. Once he owned something, it was his.”

Toggs had not survived the 70’s on a rural roadside, and Bill had used his fleeting moment on the TV news to try to promote his newly remodeled restaurant across from the fading Rosedale, known as Pizza World. On March 25th, 1983, Jean was busy at the new establishment when she noticed a large bus pull up next to the Rosedale. Nine men emerged and began to pose for a picture in front of the diner. Jean charged across the street. She angrily insisted that the group leave immediately. One of the men approached her in an effort to calm her down. Jean listened as he said something along the lines of, “Wait, it’s us. You know, the guys who immortalized the place.”

Jean had not recognized him. It was John Oates. Daryl Hall was standing right behind him. The duo were on their way to perform in Philadelphia. Although no longer hippies, the boys had returned. To see the Rosedale one last time.

“That’s when she really flew off the handle,” said John.

Jean wove her central message of “I ougtha sue your asses!” with a tapestry of profanities.

“We laughed and headed on down to Philly,” John recalls.

Shortly thereafter, the Rosedale was gone. Bill received neither compensation nor consolation. Any scrap value merely made a dent in the back taxes he now owed on the massive parcel of land. Once upon a time, Bill had invested years of savings and sweat in a sparkling diner in order to become a successful businessman and provider. That sparkling diner had now been reduced to dirty, scattered debris on land he would soon no longer own.

“Dad had talked about moving back to Alabama and reopening the diner there,” Marla once offered.

“He talked about going back to his watering hole in Alabama,” Cindy said.  She then added that it never seemed a legitimate possibility.

Pizza World suffered the same fate as Toggs, only faster. At age 70, as Bill was gearing up to re-open it for his last hurrah in the restaurant business, he suffered a stroke.  Bill survived, but retired reluctantly.

Two years later, on yet another summer day, Bill was driving on Route 724 with Jean alongside him. They were having a routine conversation—until Jean didn’t answer. She died moments later, from a massive heart attack.

“I think Jean was the love of my Dad’s life,” Cindy once opined.

Bill soldiered on, and three years later, he was elated by the arrival of Marla’s son, Nash. 

Bill had long regretted that he had not forged a closer relationship with his first grandson, Shawn, who had arrived slightly more than three years prior to that fateful day the hippie boys dropped by Toggs. Bill’s path to grandfatherly redemption seemed to have fallen off the map when Cindy had moved to North Carolina in 1977. But with the arrival of Nash, “Pop Pop” enthusiastically devoted his time to atoning for past mistakes and making the most of his second chance.

 Proving Cindy’s declaration that he could never willingly relinquish ownership, Bill still stopped by a long-dormant Pizza World, into the early years of the new millenium. One day, while tidying up the parking lot, Bill noticed a man across the street, who was obviously struggling to find a particular spot. Bill approached him, and pleasantly asked him if he was looking for the diner.

“I used to own it,” Bill said proudly, launching into a story.  

With help from family and friends, Bill continued to live by himself at his longtime home in Pottstown. By the age of eighty-six, his physical state required the constant care of a nursing home. Eleven days after checking in, and thirty four years and three days after “Abandoned Luncheontte” was released, Talmadge W. Faulk passed away on November 6th, 2007. Nancy joined him two months later, each of them leaving behind two daughters, two grandsons, and one—as John Oates described—immortal diner.

It is logical to assume that had Hall and Oates never approached Bill with their peculiar request, the Rosedale would have stood intact until his death. At the very least, the world was deprived of a rather unique estate sale. Instead, the diner crumbled under the weight of a record album cover. An album, that ironically (t-shirt notwithstanding), is the only tangible thing Talmadge W. Faulk ever received for his trouble.

Yet, with more than one million copies of Abandoned Luncheonette sold, along with countless pairs of eyes who have merely seen the cover, Bill’s Rosedale is indisputably one the most famous diners in history. And that distinction has value—even though the diner owner himself was mystified by the worldwide appeal of two local hippie boys.

Pennsylvania Route 724 spans thirty miles, and passes through more than a dozen municipalities. Only one person in this world will ever be THE man on this considerable stretch of asphalt. And that man was Talmadge W. Faulk. Today, forty-five years after closing forever, Faulk’s diner still has significance, even to people who never once set foot in it. People like me.

On June 12th, 2010, I traveled six hundred miles from my home for what has become an annual visit with recently made, but dearly held friends. Marla’s husband, Mike, stepped several feet into thick woods, rummaging around the large infertile rectangle emblazoned by the Rosedale. While Marla, Nash, and I spotted several tiles from the floor and walls on the outskirts of the woods, Mike emerged with something I had never come across in my previous visits to the site. He extended it to me.  It was a plate, nearly 50% intact. “Would you like this?”  Mike asked.

I wanted to smile, but my jaw had dropped. I hope that somehow, somewhere, The Man on Route 724 was smiling for me.


Partial dinner plate from Rosedale Diner found in the underbrush
photo courtesy of Matt Simmons


Sketch of the Abandoned Luncheonette done by Scott Moyer


Former site on Rte 724 of the Abandoned Luncheonette today.
photo courtesy of Matt Simmons


Bill Faulk’s Pizza World today, another Abandoned restaurant!
photo courtesy of Matt Simmons


L-R, Cindy Baker, Matt Simmons, Marla LaBelle & Susan Norman
2009 photo courtesy of Matt Simmons

Acknowledgments:

I want to thank Matt Simmons for the great job he did writing the major portion of this piece. He did what I would have liked to accomplish myself. But due to time & travel constraints as well as a myriad of other reasons on my end, I was unable to do. I also want to thank Cindy, Marla & Susan for their part in telling this story. Without their assistance, none of this would have come to fruition. Finally, thanks to Daryl Hall & John Oates for inspiring me with that long-ago album cover that intrigued me so much through the 1970′s!  - Larry Cultrera

The content of this story was greatly enhanced with information contributed by:

Cindy Baker, Marla LaBelle, Sue Norman, Betty Hohl, John Oates, Tim Hufnagle, Michael SanGiacomo, Nick Tosches and WCAU TV in Philadelphia.

They each have my sincere gratitude.

As does Daryl Hall, for writing the song that has led me on this remarkable journey.

…A journey that may have stalled in my corner of the world, were it not for Larry Cultrera.  Larry, thank you for sharing your Diner Hotline Weblog so that I may share my favorite story.”    -  Matt Simmons


Larry Cultrera finding The Abandoned Luncheontette, February 26, 1982

In an early post I did on November 7, 2007 (“The Diner in my Header”), I mentioned I would update a story I wrote in 1991 for a “Diner Hunting” column in the 4th edition of Roadside Magazine about finding The Abandoned Luncheonette, the diner on the cover of Daryl Hall & John Oates’ second LP record album. This update would include newly acquired background and info on the diner with lots of photos from my own archives as well as photos donated by friends and family members of the diner owner Bill Faulk.

I have mentioned this at least twice since then and am happy to announce that within the week, the longest post ever to appear on Diner Hotline will be posted! I am proud to say this post will be co-authored by my friend Matt Simmons who has put together the bulk of info and penned the most complete story of the Rosedale Diner ever written!

So, in anticipation of the post to be finalized, here are the lyrics to my favorite Hall & Oates tune (written by Daryl Hall)……..

They sat in an Abandoned Luncheonette
Sipping imaginary cola and drawing faces in the tabletop dust
His voice was rusty from years as a sergeant in “this man’s army”
He was old and crusty

She was twenty when the diner was a baby
He was the dishwasher, busy in the back, his hands covered with Gravy
Hair black and wavy
Brilliantine slick, a pot – cleaning dandy,
He was young and randy

Day to day, to day… today
then they were old, their lives wasted away
Month to month, year to year
they all run together
time measured by the peeling of paint on the luncheonette wall

The old sat together in the empty diner
filled with cracked china
Old news was blowing across the filthy floor
and the sign on the door read “this way out”, that’s all it read
that’s all it said

I noticed that one line in the lyrics (as written on the inner sleeve of the album) differed from the way Daryl Hall sang them. The line that said “He was old and crusty” was how Daryl sang it, on the inner sleeve it said “They were old and crusty”.  LAC

Posted by: dinerhotline | August 3, 2010

Rhode Island’s Hot Weiners (or Hot Wieners)

Richard Vittorioso sent me a message back in early June, right after I posted about visiting the A&W Drive-In restaurant in Smithfield, RI over Memorial Day weekend. Richard and I recently became acquainted in the last year and a half during the time he was writing the autobiography on his life as a radio disk jockey around the Ocean State, the title of the book is “I Could Have Been Famous But Sex, Love and Life Got In The Way”.  

His message stated…. Larry, I’ve been to that A&W and it’s really cool. Reminds me of the old Pink Elephant Drive-In that I included in my book. Have you ever thought of doing something on the New York System and Coney Island Hot Weiner places throughout R.I.?

I told him I was aware of these places and that maybe it was a good idea for a future post, so here it is. I started immediately to do some online research for some history on this culinary phenomenon peculiar to the Ocean State, as well as to find some of the locations of these places. I know I have seen a few of them in my travels searching for diners over the last 30 years, but never kept a mental note on the locations (other than the Olneyville New York System store on Plainfield St. in Providence).

For some historical background, these “Hot Weiners” (sometimes spelled Wieners) are not hot dogs, no sir, these are a slightly different animal (so to speak). They have been around for almost a century, ever since Greek immigrants who had run similar operations on Coney Island (New York) moved north and stuck the New York name to these new shops to gain credibility with the local customers.

As I stated above, never refer to these as “Hot Dogs” or you will get a look of disdain or at least ignored. If you see one as they are cooking, you will notice they do look a little different. In most cases they are not as big around (circumfrentially) as a hot dog. In fact they are made usually of beef, pork and veal cuts and come in long ropes of sausage, not tied off like hot dogs. The different stores that serve them get them as the long ropes and cut them into individual weiners, therefore they have “cut” or square ends. The color is usually a little more reddish than a hot dog too. They are usually served on a steamed bun.

Most people usually order them ”all the way” meaning with mustard, meat sauce, onions and a sprinkle of celery salt. The meat sauce is basically a “chili” sauce (no beans). If you are at one of these shops at a busy time and there are a bunch of orders, the person making them (if he is an old-school short order cook) will prepare these “Up d’arm”. They hold one arm out, palm up, and line up the buns between wrist and elbow, then quickly put a weiner in each, squirt on the mustard, dollop the meat sauce, spread the onions, and sprinkle the celery salt. As I have read, at the best places, all this can happen in a matter of seconds.


Hot Weiners “all the way” photo courtesy of Olneyville N.Y. Systems website

So in my research, I put together a list of 11 different shops that serve the traditional “Hot Weiner”. There certainly are many more shops throughout the state than my list reflects but this is only a start. So on July 4th, my wife Denise and my brother Rick joined me for a little excursion into the Ocean State to photograph and hopefully sample some of these Hot Weiners.

I ordered my list of places to start in Warren, RI and work my way using my car’s GPS from there to East Providence, North Providence, Providence and eventually Cranston. Little did I know that July 4th being on a Sunday this year screwed up my plans as every one of these shops were closed that day! At least I got some great photos and a good idea which places I would go back to visit on the next trip.

Rod’s Grille, 6 Washington St.,
Warren, RI 02885, 401-245-9405

Warren is a nice little town near Bristol, RI and Rod’s Grille is a great place for breakfast or lunch. Spelled “Grill” on the sign but “Grille” on their take-out menu, it makes no difference. This is a great place that has been around since 1955. According to their take-out menu, they were voted Best Wieners in the East Bay!

Rod’s offers Breakfast specials & Omelets along with the usual sides of bacon, ham or sausage as well as French Toast and Pancakes. There is also a Bolo Special which is a breakfast sandwich made with a Portuguese Muffin which can be ordered 4 different ways. Besides the Hot Wieners they also offer a number of sandwiches for lunch. Soups, dinner plates and deserts are available along with the usual sides of french fries, onion rings and chicken tenders.

On my return trip to Rod’s Grille on August 2nd, we got there between 10:00 and 10:30 am and I ordered a Hot Weiner with a small Coffee Milk (this is tradition I’m told). I told the waitress this was my first time ordering a Hot Weiner and she said “Oh, a newbie” and laughed. I, not being a “mustard” person ordered it with sauce and salt (in the Hot Weiner lingo), I decided to also forego the onions for my wife’s sake, she has to live with me.

I found the taste to be similar to Coney Island Hot Dogs at Tex Barry’s in Attleboro, as I half expected. So the big difference between Tex Barry’s and Rhode Island Hot Weiners is the “type of sausage” and the fact that celery salt is used on the Weiners. I enjoyed it very much and was looking forward to the next one at the Olneyville New York System shop in Providence.

Rod’s Grille is open at 6:30 am, Monday thru Saturday. Closing at 4:00 pm on Monday, Wednesday and Saturday, 7:30 pm on Tuesday and Thursday and 6:00 pm on Fridays.

Olneyville New York System, 20 Plainfield St.,
Providence, RI 02909, 401-621-9500

According to their sign, the Olneyville New York System shop was started in 1946. But according to their website, the history goes like this….

In the 1920′s, Nicholas Stevens and his father Anthony emigrated to the United States from Greece and settled in Brooklyn, New York where they operated a candy shop. In the late 1930′s , they moved their entire family to Rhode Island and opened a small restaurant at 8 Olneyville Square and served hot wieners and a small lunch menu. Then in 1953, they moved to it’s present location around the corner at 20 Plainfield Street and were open 24 hours a day until 1968. In 1981, a second location opened at 1012 Reservoir Ave in Cranston and to this day, the Stevens family continues to operate the two restaurants to what has become a Rhode Island tradition.

The interior of this place is a blast from the past with very little updating. There is more than just Weiners on the menu here as well, I saw breakfasts being cooked on the grill when we were there. They are open from lunch to late night. Their Hot Weiner tasted basically the same as Rod’s Grille’s version! Check out their website at…. http://www.olneyvillenewyorksystem.com/index.html

They have actually 3 locations, the 2nd one  is at ……

Olneyville New York System, 1012 Reservoir Ave.,
Cranston, RI 02910, 401-275-6031

I attempted to go to Wein-O-Rama in Cranston after leaving the Providence Olneyville N.Y. System but as luck would have it, Wein-O-Rama was closed for their 2 week vacation! So on the way home we stopped at the Olneyville in Cranston.

And the third and newest Olneyville N.Y. System location is at……

Olneyville New York System, 1744 Mineral Spring Ave.,
North Providence, RI 02911, 401-383-4155

Wein-O-Rama, 1009 Oaklawn Ave.,
Cranston, RI 02920, 401-943-4990


A close-up of Wein-O-Rama in Cranston


Wein-O-Rama with its sign in the foreground.


One of the BEST signs ever!

As I said above, they were closed on July 4th and also on August 2nd so at some point, I have to get back here, this looks great inside as well as outside. One of the reasons I like this place is its name! I recall Bill Griffith used this in a “Zippy” comic strip a few years ago along with Billy’s Burg-O-Rama in Oxford, Mass. and a bowling alley in Newington, CT called Bowl-O-Rama! Someday Wein-O-Rama, someday!!!!

Original New York System, 424 Smith St.,
Providence, RI 02908, 401-331-5349

The Original New York System has been in operation since 1927. It is a great looking place and one of these days I will check it out also.


Another fantastic sign!

Here are 2 other places I have photographed, if you try them, let me know what they are like.

Sam’s New York System, 1031 Mineral Spring Ave.,
North Providence, RI 02904, 401-722-7922


Sam’s New York System is about a mile and half to 2 miles from the North Providence location of the Olneyville N.Y. System on the same street!

Sparky’s Coney Island Systems, 122 Taunton Ave.,
East Providence, RI 02914, 401-434-9826


Sparky’s is the only place I found that has “Coney Island Systems”
in its name.

One of the guys at the Providence Olneyville N.Y. System said he liked the weiners here as well as the ones they make!

Three other places I have on my list but did not get to are….

Ferrucci Original New York System, 1246 Main St.,
Warwick, RI 02893, 401-821-9849

Nick’s New York System, 280 Cowesett Ave.,
West Warwick, RI 02893, 401-823-5220

Weiner Genie, 80 Higginson Ave.,
Lincoln, RI 02865, 401-726-6641

Information for this post came from various sources including an article I found on Examiner.com written by Donna Diegel (Providence Food Examiner)  entitled “Ever had a hot weiner?” and an article from The Boston Globe’s  August 6, 2006 “Explore New England” section written by Joe Yonan entitled “Don’t call it a hot dog”.

Posted by: dinerhotline | July 27, 2010

Diner Stools for sale!

I was contacted by Jon Femia of Connecticut who recently obtained 3 vintage diner stools. He sent me some photos of these stools and they look to be in near perfect condition.

Jon says he does not know where or what diner they came from and would prefer to sell them as a” lot” ( not individually), and would like about $50 each for them if that is reasonable.  He is open to negotiating the price. If anyone is interested in buying these from Jon, you can contact him at  j_nfma99@hotmail.com

Regency Shop Bar Stools

Ironically I also heard from Susan who has the RegencyShop.com website. They offer modern bar stools right now but she assures me they will surely be adding traditional diner stools very soon. They also offer an interesting selection of  furniture and accessories. The website is at……
http://www.regencyshop.com/ and their phone number is 1-866-766-2680

Posted by: dinerhotline | July 23, 2010

Michael Perlman requests help for NYC’s Empire Diner


Empire Diner, photo early 1980′s by Larry Cultrera

Michael Perlman who was instrumental in helping to save 2 other New York City diners (the Moondance Diner and the Cheyenne Diner) from destruction is now on a new crusade to keep the Empire Diner intact. The former operators lost their lease recently and the new operators are planning to make changes (including the name).

LAC – If they do make changes, I hope it is just operational and not physical as I personally do not want to see this iconic diner altered.  Anyway here is the press release Michael has put out to various interested parties……

Hi Everyone, This is very important. Please help…

Under the NYC Landmarks Law, the NYC Landmarks Preservation Commission designated landmark status to the historic Empire Diner, which is a 1946 Art Deco freestanding diner by mastermind Joseph Fodero of the Fodero Dining Car Co). It is of a dying breed, since it is one of the last of 2 highly intact examples in Manhattan, which was once dotted with freestanding diners. The Empire Diner is a marked contributing property to the city’s Historic District. Note the Dept of Buildings’ classification for 210 10th Ave as L for Landmark: http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/PropertyProfileOverviewServlet?boro=1&houseno=210&street=10th+ave&requestid=0&s=A03C41B885
B461E4F46BD08866A7430E

HOW YOU CAN HELP: As many people as possible need to call the Landmarks Preservation Commission’s investigation unit and main phone number, and ask why the Empire State Building model was removed from the top corner of the landmarked facade of the Empire Diner at 210 10th Ave, and also mention that the new operators likely plan on changing the famed name (according to many press clips), which to our knowledge also has protection under the Landmarks Law. E

mpire Diner with ESB model: http://www.flickr.com/photos/professorbop/720225154/  Diner with ESB gone astray: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tanjatiziana/4775179361/  Is the latter photo the ideal of progress? We believe a permit would need to be approved by the Landmarks Commission first, so it is imperative that they know.

1. Call the LPC investigation unit – Diane Simonson at (212) 669-7948
2. Also call the main LPC # for Dir of Research Mary Beth Betts, and make her aware of the ESB removal and diner name endangerment. The interior should also be recommended for Interior Landmark status (facade already has landmark status). Mary Beth Betts is reachable at (212) 669-7700.

Please call, & tell your friends to call as well. Keep Michael Perlman informed of your correspondence with the LPC via unlockthevault@hotmail.com Thank you,
Michael Perlman
Rego-Forest Preservation Council, Chair (Rego Park & Forest Hills) http://regoforestpreservation.blogspot.com/  
Four Borough Preservation Alliance Corp, Queens VP Queens Preservation Council, Bd. of Dir. Central Queens Historical Association, Bd. of Dir. Friends of The Ridgewood Theatre, Chair Friends of The RKO Keith’s Flushing Theatre, Member Committee To Save The Forum Diner/Cheyenne Diner/Moondance Diner, Chair
(917) 446-7775
unlockthevault@hotmail.com

Posted by: dinerhotline | July 14, 2010

Bel Aire Diner to become Red’s Kitchen & Tavern

I got an email yesterday from Robert DeCristoforo, a friend and former coworker of mine. The email had a link to an article from the July 7th Salem News, (Salem, Mass.) about the upcoming plans for the Bel Aire Diner located on U.S. Rte. 1 in Peabody, Mass. This article confirmed info that I already knew and posted about back in April, see…. http://dinerhotline.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/notes-from-the-hotline-4-10-2010/

 The Bel Aire Diner is a large Mountain View Diner from the early 1950′s that has been closed for a number of years. It is just up the northbound side of U.S. Rte. 1 from the Sonic Drive-In that was opened almost a year ago.

 

Here is the Salem News article….

July 7, 2010

Red’s plans to open Route 1 restaurant, too

By Matthew K. Roy
Staff writer

PEABODY — Red’s Sandwich Shop, a culinary institution in downtown Salem since 1945, could be coming to Route 1 in Peabody.

Owner John Drivas has plans to open a second Red’s at the site of the long-shuttered Bel-Aire Diner on Route 1 north. It will be called Red’s Kitchen and Tavern.

“For our type of operation,” Drivas said, “it’s a perfect location.”

Red’s made a name for itself in Salem by offering an affordable variety of traditional breakfast and lunch menu options. Pending the approval of the city, the Peabody version of the restaurant could open by late fall or early next year in a new commercial building that will house multiple tenants. Ground could be broken on the project as early as next week, said David Ankeles, lawyer of property owner John Kallas.

“We’ve been looking (to expand) for some time,” Drivas said.

The third owner in its history, Drivas has run Red’s for 23 years. The Peabody location will reflect the menu and concept of the original restaurant.

Though still in the planning stages, the new restaurant is projected to be 5,000 square feet with seating for 175. It will offer breakfast, lunch and, unlike the original Red’s, dinner. The proposed operating hours are 5 a.m. to 1 a.m., according to a special permit application filed with the City Council.

“Red’s has got a good reputation, I’m sure they’ll have a positive impact in that area,” City Councilor Dave Gamache said.

Gamache represents the ward where Red’s is slated to locate.

“As soon as we can get that corner developed, the better off we’ll be,” he said.

Red’s needs the council to grant it a special permit because it intends to sell alcohol. Drivas is seeking a full liquor license. In Salem, he operates with a beer and wine license.

“It has every type of restaurant you can think of, but I don’t feel that Route 1 has a Red’s,” Drivas said. “It will be a great addition to the city of Peabody and the Route 1 area.”

The site will have 130 parking spaces and provide day and overnight parking for tractor-trailers. Among the businesses in the nearly 21,000-square-foot building will be a convenience store and motorcycle shop, Ankeles said.

But Red’s will be the primary draw.

“I hope (Drivas) gets a chance to do a bang-up job up there,” Ankeles said. “He’s a good guy, and he has a great reputation.”

Regular customers of the original Red’s need not worry. Nothing will change there, Drivas said.

The Central Street hot spot is popular among locals and visitors to Salem and has served its share of luminaries, particularly from the world of politics.

The late Sen. Ted Kennedy dined there, so has Sen. John Kerry, former Gov. Mitt Romney and first lady Barbara Bush.

Red’s would become part of a restaurant revival on Route 1 in Peabody. A new Sonic restaurant has thrived since opening last summer.

Santarpio’s, a famous, family-run East Boston pizzeria, is transforming the former Bennigan’s restaurant on Route 1 north into its 300-seat North Shore home. The Peabody venture will be the pizzeria’s second location, after 107 years in business.

The Bel-Aire Diner went out of business in 2006.

Because of its summer recess, the council will not take up Red’s special permit application until late August.

I personally do not like that Red’s owners are planning not to use “Diner” in the name of the new restaurant. Instead of “Red’s Kitchen & Tavern” they could  name it “Red’s Kitchen & Tavern at the Bel Aire Diner”, or how about “Red’s Bel Aire Diner”, just thinking! – LAC

Thanks for the link Robert!

Posted by: dinerhotline | July 8, 2010

Notes from the Hotline, 7-8-2010

Diner Slide Presentaion in North Easton, Mass.

I will be doing one of my Diner Slide Presentations toward the end of this month. It will be held at The Ames Free Library of North Easton, Mass. on July 29, 2010. The show starts at 6:30 pm.


The Ames Free Library, North Easton, Mass. A handsome 1877 building
designed by the famed architect, Henry Hobson Richardson

In this presentation, I show how this American Institution has evolved from the horse drawn Lunch Wagons of the late 19th century to the large ultra-modern Diner-Restaurants of the 21st century. I also include a section on some of the local New England diners that people can visit, if they are so inclined!

Here is a link to the Library’s website… http://www.amesfreelibrary.org/index.htm

Diner Photos by Beth Lennon of Retro Road Map
included in Wildwood, NJ exhibit


Angelo’s Diner, Glassboro, NJ – Photo by Beth Lennon

Our good friend, Beth Lennon has a group of her Southern New Jersey Diner photos on exhibit for the month of July in wonderful Wildwood, NJ!  Beth has the hugely popular Retro Roadmap blog at http://retroroadmap.com/, probably my most favorite blog (after Diner Hotline of course!). Here is the mention of it from the July 8th Shore News Today….

WILDWOOD – Beth Lennon of Phoenixville, Pa. recently announced that a selection of her photos of southern New Jersey vintage diners will be on display in Wildwood, throughout July.  The exhibit will be at The Doo Wop Experience in celebration of their ‘Manufactured Diner Month’.
Lennon is the owner of RetroRoadmap.com – a travel blog dedicated to all things retro, vintage and mod.  The Web site includes her photos and experiences from her travels across the United States visiting what she describes as ‘cool old places’.  Her photographs have been used by cartoonist Dan Goodsell.
The Doo Wop Experience is located across from the Wildwoods Convention Center at Ocean Avenue between Burk and Montgomery Avenues.  The exhibit is free to the public and is open Tuesday – Sunday from 10 a.m. to noon and 5 to 10 p.m.  For more information see www.doowopusa.org.

Here is Beth’s list of the diner photographs she has on exhibit…

Angelo’s Diner
26 North Main Street
Glassboro, NJ 08028
(856) 881-9854
1951 Kullman diner

At The Hop Diner
411 South Pomona Road
Egg Harbor City, NJ 08215
(609) 804-1950
1952 O’Mahony diner

Deepwater Diner
552 Shell Road
Carneys Point NJ 08069
(856) 299-1411
1958 Silk City diner

Elgin Diner
2621 Mount Ephraim Avenue
Camden, NJ 08104
(856) 962-0202
1958 Kullman diner

Forked River Diner
317 South Main Street
Forked River, NJ 08731
(609) 693-2222
c.1960 Kullman diner

Mustache Bill’s Diner
Broadway & 8th Street
Barnegat Light, NJ 08006
(609) 494-0155
1958 Fodero diner

Salem Oak Diner
106 Broadway Road
Salem, NJ 08079
(856) 935-1305
1955 Silk City diner

Report of Plaistow, NH’s Eggie’s Diner may be in jeopardy


Eggie’s Diner, Rte. 125, Plaistow, NH – Although the diner is covered in wood instead of its original stainless steel skin, it still has a lot of integrity left on the inside.

Diner Fan Bob Higgins emailed me 2 days ago with some news on Eggie’s Diner of Plaistow, NH. It does not look good for this 1950′s vintage Mountain View Diner. Here is what Bob said in the email….

The diner is closed up and vacant as of the beginning of July. The business has moved to another location in Plastow. There are some surveyors stakes and markings around the diner property. It has been for sale for a long time.

I hope that someone can save this diner, it probably would not take much to at least get it into storage and out of harm’s way.


Posted by: dinerhotline | July 3, 2010

Recent Visit to the Wheelhouse Diner


Wheelhouse Diner, 453 Hancock Street (corner of Hayward St.) in the
Wollaston section of Quincy, Mass.

Last Saturday (the 26th of June) Denise and I took a ride down to Quincy, Mass. for breakfast at the Wheelhouse Diner. The Wheelhouse is an on-site built diner (non-factory-built) that has been in existance for decades. It has been owned & operated for the last 5 years by Doug Showstead who looks like a classic short order cook with his “whites”, something you do not see too much of these days.

The exterior has gotten some recent updates since I first photographed it in the 1990′s. The interior has the typical diner set-up with counter and stools and a few booths. The cooking is done right behind the counter and there is a ktichen on the back of the building. The great signage you see was done by the Modern Art Sign Company which is right next door to the diner on Hayward St. If you look closely at the bottom of the verticle street sign you will see how the sign company got to advertise their advantageous location next door to the diner, see below…..

The food and service is great at the Wheelhouse Diner, and the prices are very reasonable too! I highly recommend this as a breakfast or lunch spot if you are ever in Quincy.

As is sometimes the case, after we eat at the Wheelhouse, we drive a few blocks over to Eastern Nazarene College to walk around the small campus, (this college is Denise’s alma mater). On the way over at the center of the business district in Wollaston, I took a glance down Beal Street. I noticed that the old Wollaston Theater was still there (although not in use) and also that there was still an operating Brigham’s Ice Cream store. The company that owned Brigham’s closed recently and the only stores still open are the former franchised ones.


Brigham’s Ice Cream store on Beal Street in Quincy

The Theater is directly across the street from Brigham’s…….


Wollaston Theater, on Beal Street in Quincy, Mass


Wollaston Theater, on Beal Street in Quincy, Mass


Wollaston Theater, on Beal Street in Quincy, Mass

The entrance to the theater is in a storeblock, while the theater itself is actually behind and to the right. So I assume that when the theater was open for business, a person would  walk thru the entrance and buy their tickets, then walk to the rear and take a right to enter the auditorium. The theater looks to be intact and there is a sign on the door that anyone interested in information on the property to contact a local realty company.

Posted by: dinerhotline | June 26, 2010

Notes from the Hotline, 6-26-2010

A Great article on Richard Gutman
from Smithsonian Magazine online

 
This 1956 photograph was taken during the short time that two Nite Owls sat cheek-by-jowl in Fall River, MA. Soon the old lunch wagon was carted away and demolished, replaced by the gleaming diner built by the DeRaffele Company of New Rochelle, NY. Collection of Richard J.S. Gutman

A Life Devoted to the American Diner

With a career spent chronicling the best of American diners, curator Richard Gutman knows what makes a great greasy spoon

  • By Sarah Saffian
  • Smithsonian.com, June 15, 2010

 What Jane Goodall is to chimpanzees and David McCullough is to John Adams, Richard Gutman is to diners. “I was interviewed for a New Yorker article about diners when I was 23 years old,” he says over a meal at the Modern Diner (est. 1941) in downtown Pawtucket, Rhode Island, one recent sunny Monday. “And now, almost 40 years later, I’m still talking about diners.” He’s gradually grown into the lofty title “important architectural historian of the diner” that George Trow sardonically bestowed on him in that 1972 “Talk of the Town” piece, progressing from graduate of Cornell’s architecture school to movie consultant on Barry Levinson’s Diner and Woody Allen’s Purple Rose of Cairo and author of American Diner: Then and Now and other books. But his enthusiasm for his subject remains as fresh as a slab of virtue (diner lingo for cherry pie).


Richard J.S. Gutman, diner scholar.
Culinary Arts Museum, photo by Steven Spencer

 Gutman leaps out of the booth—he’s compact and spry, surprising in someone who’s spent decades not just talking about diners, but eating in them—to count the number of seats in the Modern (52). Weighing the classic diner conundrum—“should I have breakfast or lunch?” he asks the grease-and-coffee-scented air—he boldly orders one of the more exotic daily specials, a fresh fruit and mascarpone crepe, garnished with a purple orchid. Before taking the first bite, like saying grace, he snaps a photograph of the dish to add to the collection of more than 14,000 diner-related images archived on his computer. He tells me that his own kitchen, at the house in Boston where he’s lived with his family for 30 years, is designed diner-style, with an authentic marble countertop, three stools and a menu board all salvaged from a 1940s Michigan diner, along with a 1930s neon “LUNCH” sign purchased from a local antique store. “Nobody has a kitchen like this,” Gutman half-confesses, half-boasts over the midday clatter of dishes and silverware. “Nobody.”


Richard Gutman’s dinerized kitchen, Boston, MA.
Photo by Richard J.S. Gutman

We finish our breakfast/lunch—I highly recommend the Modern’s raisin challah French toast with a side of crispy bacon—and head to Johnson & Wales University’s Culinary Arts Museum in Providence, where Gutman has been the director and curator since 2005. The museum hosts more than 300,000 items, a library of 60,000 volumes and a 25,000-square-foot gallery, featuring a reconstructed 1800s stagecoach tavern, a country fair display, a chronology of the stove, memorabilia from White House dinners and more. But it’s the 4,000-square-foot exhibit, “Diners: Still Cookin’ in the 21st Century,” that is Gutman’s labor of love. Indeed, 250 items come from his own personal collection—archival photographs of streamlined stainless steel diners and the visionaries who designed them, their handwritten notes and floor plans, classic heavy white mugs from the Depression-era Hotel Diner in Worcester, Massachusetts, 77-year-old lunch wagon wheels, a 1946 cashier’s booth. “It’s just one slice of the food service business that we interpret here,” Gutman likes to say, but the diner exhibit is clearly the museum’s highlight.

When lunch wagons moved off the streets, they grew in size and menu and stayed open 24 hours. This diner was built by Jerry O’Mahony, Inc. around 1918 and operated in Paterson, NJ. Collection of Richard J.S. Gutman

This is fitting, since the history of the diner began, after all, right here in Providence—with a horse-drawn wagon, a menu and, as they say, a dream. In 1872, an enterprising man named Walter Scott introduced the first “night lunch wagon.” Coming out at dusk, the lunch wagons would pick up business after restaurants closed, serving workers on the late shift, newspapermen, theatergoers, anyone out and about after dark and hungry for an inexpensive hot meal. A fellow would get his food from the wagon’s window and eat sitting on the curb. Gaining popularity, the lunch wagons evolved into “rolling restaurants,” with a few seats added within, first by Samuel Jones in 1887. Folks soon started referring to them as “lunch cars,” which then became the more genteel-sounding “dining cars,” which was then, around 1924, shortened to the moniker “diner.”

One distinction between a diner and a coffee shop is that the former is traditionally factory-built and transported to its location, rather than constructed on-site. The first stationary lunch car, circa 1913, was made by Jerry O’Mahony, founder of one of the first of a dozen factories in New Jersey, New York and Massachusetts that manufactured and shipped all the diners in the United States. At their peak in the 1950s, there were 6,000 across the country, as far-flung as Lakewood, Colorado and San Diego, though the highest concentration remained in the Northeast; today, there are only about 2,000, with New Jersey holding the title for most “diner-supplied” state, at 600-plus. New ones are still made occasionally, though, by the three remaining factories, and old ones are painstakingly restored by people like Gutman, who has worked on some 80 diners and currently has a couple of projects going, like the Owl Diner in Lowell, Massachusetts, in the alley (on the side).

Around World War II, diners began to be built in more than one section to accommodate more patrons and larger kitchens. This 1946 photograph shows the Tastee Diner being installed in Silver Spring, MD.
Collection of Richard J.S. Gutman

While Gutman is diplomatically reluctant to identify his favorite diner, one of his mainstays is Casey’s of Natick, Massachusetts, the country’s oldest operating diner. “They’ve supported five generations of a family on ten stools,” he says, gesturing to a photograph of the 10-by-20 ½ -half-foot, all oak-interior dining car, constructed as a horse-drawn lunch wagon in 1922, and bought secondhand five years later by Fred Casey and moved from Framingham to its current location four miles away. In the 1980s, when Gutman’s daughter Lucy was little, no sooner had they pulled up to the counter at Casey’s but Fred’s great-grandson Patrick would automatically slide a package of chocolate chip cookies down to Lucy, pour her a chocolate milk, and get her grilled cheese sandwich going on the grill. “If you go to a diner, yes, it’s a quick experience,” Gutman explains “But it’s not an anonymous experience.”


This unidentified diner interior was built by Paramount Dining Car Company of Haledon, NJ, in the late 1930s. The materials and design show diner detailing at its finest: stainless steel, chrome, Formica and ceramic tile. Collection of Richard J.S. Gutman

That intangible, yet distinctive sense of community captures what Gutman calls the ordinary person’s story. “Without ordinary people, how would the world run? Politicians have to go to diners to connect. What’s the word on the street? In diners, you get people from all walks of life, a real cross-section.” And while any menu around the country can be counted on for staples like ham and eggs and meatloaf—and, back in the day, pickled tongue and asparagus on toast—a region’s local flavor is also represented by its diners’ cuisine: scrod in New England, crab cakes in Maryland, grits down South.

The changing times are reflected on the diner menu, too: the Washington, D.C. chain Silver Diner introduced “heart-healthy” items in 1989 and recently announced that it would supply its kitchens with locally grown foods; the Capitol Diner, serving the working-class residents of Lynn, Massachusetts, since 1928, added quesadillas to its menu five years ago; today there are all-vegetarian diners and restored early 20th-century diners that serve exclusively Thai food.

If the essential diner ethos is maintained in the midst of such innovations, Gutman approves. But, purist that he is, he’ll gladly call out changes that don’t pass muster. Diners with kitsch, games, gumball machines or other “junk” frustrate him. “You don’t need that kind of stuff in a diner! You don’t go there to be transported into an arcade! You go there to be served some food, and to eat.”

And there you have the simplest definition of what, exactly, this iconic American eatery is. “It’s a friendly place, usually mom-and-pop with a sole proprietor, that serves basic, home-cooked, fresh food, for good value,” Gutman explains. “In my old age, I’ve become less of a diner snob”—itself a seeming contradiction in terms—“which, I think, is probably a good thing.”

Waterbury, CT’s Silver Diner closed

I got an email from Al Hofer on June 13th and he reports that the Silver Diner of Waterbury, CT is now closed. Here is what he said….

Hi Larry, While traveling through Waterbury, CT yesterday we were going to stop at the Silver Diner for dinner and found it looking like this.


Silver Diner, Waterbury, CT – 2010 exterior photo by Al Hofer

Silver Diner, Waterbury, CT – 2010 exterior photo by Al Hofer


Silver Diner, Waterbury, CT – 2010 exterior photo by Al Hofer

This is the former Lafayette Diner that was in Easton, PA. (I have it as The New Lafayette Diner in my log – LAC). The parking lot was so torn up and scattered with junk and clutter, that I couldn’t even figure out where the driveway was. It looks like the property has been taken over by a gravel processing plant. Surprisingly, the interior still looks to be in real good shape.


Silver Diner, Waterbury, CT – 2010 interior photo by Al Hofer

I thought it would be used for storing a bunch of crap. By the way, we passed Blackies Hot Dogs just up the street from the diner and it was still open.

Here are 2 of my photos of the same diner when I found it back on March 22, 1982. As I noted above, it was called The New Lafayette Diner and was just off Rte. 22 in Easton, PA. This is an early 1950′s Mountain View Diner but it had a Manno Diner “tag”. It looks like the only exterior modification that was done by Manno was the newer flared out roofline. This was removed by Steve Harwin (Diversified Diners) after he bought it in the early to mid 1990′s. He in turn sold the diner in 1994 and it became the Silver Diner in Waterbury.


The New Lafayette Diner, Easton, PA – 1982 photo by Larry Cultrera


The New Lafayette Diner, Easton, PA – 1982 photo by Larry Cultrera

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